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and secretary of state john kerry have been vigorously applying their diplomatic skills. president obama wrapped up his mideast tour. after an unannounced trip for talks with maliki, today kerry makes a trip for talks with hamid karzai. possible negotiations with theal lan, this comes as u.s. troops come close to full withdrawal. nbc's mike taibbi is in kabul with more on the visit. >> reporter: this was a share of unity today. more than just a show, because it's in the interest of both parties the karzai government and the u.s. government. for karzai to not just appear to be a leader but to actually be the leader of a functioning, independent, sovereign government on its way to being a country that can operate independent of the u.s. once combat troops are withdrawn at the end of 2014. now, they smoothed over some thorny issues here. one having to do with the transfer of bagram prison which the u.s. had run with 4,000 detainees to afghan control, complete afghan control with consultation with the u.s. to make sure high-value, high-risk detainees aren't involved in prisoner exchanges or simply r
of state, john kerry, the vice president, joe biden, who also have to answer for their role in this. people like wolfowitz, cheney, rumsfeld, should not be given any kind of honor in this society. they should be held accountable for the u.s. soldiers that were killed and i think it's many more than 100,000 iraqis that were killed. >> i'm sure. mike, former bush speechwriter david frumm has written a column in which he reveals long conversations held in 2002 with dick cheney. according to frumm, the two men talked less about promoting democracy and how iraq might become a source of oil to the united states. mike, was cheap oil really at the heart of this invasion? >> you know, i wouldn't go that far, martin, but i would say that fears that the persian gulf could be disrupted by saddam and oil, therefore, become much more expensive were certainly part of it. i'm not a huge fan of most of the folks from the bush administration, myself. but i do think that someone like dick cheney did not fundamentally seek to expand american influence, you know, imperialistically or go for big oil profits for
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